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26/02/08. What Happened to AttractiveAds? Lesson to Learn!

Hi! The news of the day came yesterday when Larry, the admin of AttractiveAds announced that his very successful program that lasted for more than 6 months had come to an end. I’m not saying that I was very surprised by that outcome because everything was pointing to the imminent demise of the program. Larry himself told about it in his farewell update:

I have tried my best since the beginning for our program. I have struggled from the hacker issue when the program launched, I have been always online 4-8 hours per day, giving fast answer to every support ticket, active on forums, spreading part of the funds to other trusted programs to gain some profits for members’ earnings, pro-active notifying members whose e-gold account are blocked, but still…it is not enough. The DDOS attack to our program we experienced 2 weeks ago (5 days of downtime) really hurt the program’s health. And within the last 1 week, I have been watching the performance of our program everyday. As you may have thought, it has been decreasing slowly but surely. Even though our Alexa Traffic Rank has risen up to 46,950, but it doesn’t reflect our program financial health. The daily upgrades amount dropped, especially for STP upgrades (most heavy hitters are STP users). I am a straight-forward person. So instead of telling excuses, I’d rather to tell you the truth, right to the point“.

I agree that Larry was honest enough about the reasons for the closure but the question still remains: why did he surrender so fast? Why not implement 50/50 rule or change the plans temporarily or do anything else to try to save the program? He even refused my suggestion not to credit the days when the site was offline during the DDOS-attack. So here the next question arises: why on earth didn’t Larry do anything to stop the collapse but just watched silently from the sidelines while AttractiveAds was going down? Knowing that the admin was always on top of things and invested so much time and effort in developing his program I wonder what made him give up? Yes, first I thought that AttractiveAds was affected by DDOS-attack and there was no way but down but then Larry personally contacted me and assured that there was nothing to worry about and that he even had credited all missed surfing days. It made me think for a while that the program could really survive this attack. But as you know there are no miracles in this industry and the inevitable happened.

The case with AttractiveAds is a lesson to learn for us all in my opinion: always trust your gut-feeling and if you see that the program was hit by long and persistent DDOS-attack or slowed down the payments it’s a big red light and the time is right to quit it. I agree that we should support the honest admins but the most important thing is that we should care of our money because it’s really why we are here in this industry: to make some profit and not to be at a loss. My policy here that defines my success is simple: to find the right program to invest, then watch its performance carefully and if an admin fulfills what he promises I will continue to support his program and never hit-n-run. But if only a slight problem happens like I mentioned above I should be very careful from that moment and if the problem persists it’s better slowly but surely to leave the program, because even with an honest admin a program is nothing without members’ support. And as a rule the members leave a program when a problem like DDOS-attack or slow payments appears and an admin does nothing to prevent it from happening again. In case with AttractiveAds the members saw that Larry was very passive and didn’t take any measures after the DDOS-attack (like changing the hosting provider or implementing the fees). It was surely the silent sign of his resigning. I don’t know when exactly he decided to give up but it was surely long before he sent out his farewell email because any admin that doesn’t communicate with his members for a week and keeps accepting upgrades is killing his program by his own hand. Communication is the key here, so I don’t think Larry expected members’ support without telling them anything.

Some refunds were promised in his last update but now the site is not accessible for me so I wouldn’t hold my breath for that:
AttractiveAds is closed for temporary, the upgrade button is disabled until further notification. Although it is clearly stated in the Terms that no part of any earnings are guaranteed and there is no refund for Ad Pack purchases, all of you put your trust in me. If your Total Cash Paid Out is greater than Total Ad Pack Purchases your account is in profit, congratulations to you. There is nothing further you need to do. If your Total Ad Pack Purchases is greater than your Total Cash Paid Out then you are not in profit. I will try to refund all not in profit members or move it into a lower ROA program. I have not decided it yet. There will be more updates“.

Bottom line: despite some discrepancies and sudden closure I consider AttractiveAds as a huge success. The site that has been going for 6 months with such high ROI like AttractiveAds offered deserves some kudos from me. I know how hard it is to constantly maintain a site for 6 months daily and must say that Larry did a tremendous job here. My only suggestion to him if he intends to open another project soon is not to give up so fast and do everything possible to save his site and members’ funds.

Some interesting news and updates about your favorite programs are expected tomorrow on my blog so stay tuned. I just wanted to mention here that JRProfit site is offline at the moment of writing this but there is nothing to worry about as the admins are aware of that and will do their best to get the site back as soon as possible.

And finally a quick reminder for all the members of SurfProfitPro and BusinessProfitPro: Wednesday is the day for requesting withdrawals so don’t forget to cashout. Have a nice day and see you tomorrow with more news!

25/02/08. Interview with the admins of JRProfit

Hi, guys! Today I would like to introduce you to another program that will be a bit different from the ones I have joined before. It’s called JRProfit and is a profit-share type of HYIP with controllable growth. Many of you may stop reading here and say something like “we saw it all before, profit-share site cannot be good” etc. Yes, I agree that profit-share sites are very risky and unpredictable and even Dave decided that his profit-share model for BusinessProfitPro had failed because of a lack of members’ support. But the case with JRProfit is quite unique. Here we deal with the admins that have some good experience and reputation in running successful cycler/doubler programs for a long time so in my opinion they know how to run a successful program not by hearsay. I’m sure that they have some plan in mind about how to make JRProfit a long-lasting and stable program. I think with the plan they have (130% total return on every deposit and from 0% to 20% daily) it can be achievable. Considering all their prior experience I decided to give JRProfit a try and made my first deposit yesterday. And what do you think? I already got my first 20% and am going to redeposit today as I already see on their site that tomorrow’s Live Share will be 20% again. Really, with this profit-share type of sites all you can do is to jump in faster and then just watch your deposits grow. And considering the admins are experienced and reliable I wouldn’t give it a second thought. Without further ado below is the interview with the admins of JRProfit. Enjoy your reading!

1. Hi! Please introduce yourself to my readers. Do you have any previous experience in running an HYIP or other sites? What other sites do you own?

Hi Paul! We are known by MMG members as Jodikaye and Raz, mostly in the doublers/cyclers section. We haven’t had experience in running HYIP sites but we have a lot of experience running doubler/cycler sites, so there is not too much difference… the secret is to make fast/on time payments and members will be happy and will give you their support and trust. We own JRdoubler and JRptc. JRdoubler is already more than 200 days online and brought a few improvements to standard doublers. JRptc is also 6 months old and was created in order for us to have a fast advertising medium at hand.

2. How did you come up with an idea of creating your own HYI program? Why did you choose profit-share type of program?

Both of us have been investing online for a few years and all programs disappear usually after a short time from opening and most of them without any sign (at least most of them). We wanted a transparent program were all members can invest without fear of disappearing without any reason, just because the admin wanted to scam them. We choose a profit-share based program because it’s more sustainable than a fixed high % one and returns are usually faster compared to a low % one.

3. Please tell us in detail how JRProfit works. What are the minimum and the maximum amount to deposit? What payment processors do you accept? And how does the profit share system actually work?

Currently the minimum amount to deposit is $10 and maximum is $1000. We allow only 5 active upgrades in the same time with a maximum of $200 for each upgrade, but this will be increased in time (more details at site’s growth, question 8). We accept only LibertyReserve and SolidTrustPay and only those 2 processors will ever be used. How it works is really simple… 80% from all deposits are shared between all depositors, but a maximum of 20% daily. The difference is rolled-over to the next day, so the total that is shared between members is: what remained from the day before plus 80% from today’s deposits (of course maximum 20%). And because the processors are handled separately this is happening for each processor.

4. Do you have some features that will be able to prevent “hit-n-runners” from damaging JRProfit?

We do not have any special features to prevent hit-n-runners (HAR’s), except the obligation to have at least 1 active deposit in order to be paid. This could be increased to 2 active deposits for bigger payments when the site grows. We are sure that when all members will realize how the program works and that they can really make some nice profits they will not feel the need not to support it.

5. Why are the deposits made via LR and the deposits made via STP handled separately? If for example LR funds are ok but STP funds are slowed down what will you do?

We consider the fact that LR and STP deposits are handled separately to be something great. As everyone saw in all programs when one of the processors is unavailable the entire site is affected. This will not happen here. If for example LR will be down for a few days only LR deposits will be affected and all members will be able to deposit, earn a normal % and cashout with STP. This is like having 2 programs with one processor each.

6. Do you have some protection features that will keep members’ info safe? What kind of script do you use for your site?

Yes, member’s info is encrypted in the database and as increased security processor details can not be changed without contacting admin. The script is written by a trusted programmer, “neversay”.

7. From the description on your site I understand that JRProfit is just a game and has no sources of income for the investors. Is it true or there will be some additional income that will help you sustain the payouts in the long run?

Yes, it’s basically a game but not just a game. All income from advertising will be kept and used to increase the daily share if needed. Remember that we are also running 2 more sites so it’s easier to generate additional income in order to help the site. We are also making various investments in order to generate more income to make all our sites more sustainable.

8. How long do you plan to stay online? Do you plan to expand your program further? How do you intend to control JRProfit’s growth to allow the program to run stable for a long time?

We intend to stay online as long as we have support from our members and maybe even longer. We made a plan to control the growth of the program and also to prevent it from growing very fast. Right now we allow only 5 active upgrades in the same time with a maximum of $200 for every upgrade. In the next 5 weeks, every Friday the number of allowed active upgrades will be increased by 1 so this will result in a maximum of 10 active upgrades. After that we will start to increase the maximum allowed value of each upgrade with $50 weekly up to a maximum of $500. So in 11-12 weeks we will stop to 10 active upgrades with a $500 value each ($5000 total).

9. What differentiates JRProfit from similar sites? There were many attempts to run profit-share sites in the past and almost all of them failed. What makes you think your program will be different and successful?

The biggest difference is that deposits are handled separately for each processor. Most of profit-share based programs receive big deposits in the first 1-2 days and give the money away quick. With our growing control plan and roll-over amounts from the previous day we will be able to maintain a high % for a longer time. And finally is not successful only because of who is running it, the life of a program depends on all members support.

10. What is your opinion about my blog and what would you like to say to all the investors that are reading this interview right now?

We both are regular readers of your blog and we appreciate all your reviews and information.
To all investors:
- Join JRProfit and you will not be sorry.
- Still have doubts? Watch it for a few days and join when you feel ready for earnings
“.

I have a good feeling about JRProfit and wish every success to the admins. Really, with members’ support they can achieve what they want: to get a profitable and sustainable program that can be run for a long time.

News of the day! You might have heard that Larry had to close AttractiveAds - the program that has been paying for more than six months. Tomorrow I’m going to make a detailed analysis of what has happened with AttractiveAds in my opinion and why Larry couldn’t continue like this. So stay tuned. See you tomorrow, guys!

24/02/08. Sunday News and Updates

Hi, guys! I didn’t post any updates for some days because I was busy with all the interviews and other things and had a day off yesterday. For these days many things had happened: some of them are good, others are disturbing. Let’s start off with some updates regarding the programs I’m a member of.

SurfProfitPro is still the best option in my opinion. It’s paying fast and on time, the admin provides the members with excellent support and also some good news. For example, recently Dave announced that the payouts will be processed twice a week. You will be able to request your payout not only on weekends but also on Wednesdays. Here’s the latest update from Dave regarding this:
It looks like the past days have been really quiet on our MMG thread and on every other forum threads we have. To make it more lively especially after Monday payments, I decided that, just like BPP, open cashouts will happen not only on the weekends BUT ALSO WEDNESDAYS with payments happening on Thursdays. That will show more paid posts there (and other threads) and in turn, will attract more members to join“.
It is certainly a sign of a very healthy financial state of the program. The admin is so sure about his abilities to cope with payouts that he offers an extra day for payouts. It indicates also Dave’s commitment to increase the amount of members for SurfProfitPro that will shut up those naysayers who predicted the inevitable collapse of the program because of hit-n-runners. I can guarantee you that this step will attract many new members and strengthen the top positing of SurfProfitPro in every rating. I really hope this program is designed for longevity. To show SurfProfitPro my support I just made another upgrade after extremely fast weekly payments. I remind you that they will be bi-weekly starting next week.

Also I received my payment from Dave’s other program BusinessProfitPro that was recently remodeled to a low-ROI program that offers you 2% for 70 days with bi-weekly requests of payments similar to SurfProfitPro. I have just made another deposit in BusinessProfitPro as I think this program has potential to grow even with some fierce competition among low ROI HYIPs. Although Dave has one advantage over his competitors: it’s his good name, honesty and reputation of a fair and professional administrator of his programs. For those of you who are interested in finding out more about the renewed BusinessProfitPro and read my latest interview with Dave please click here.

The program that pleasantly surprised me this week is Fund4Future. The program is more than 2 weeks online and still paying like clockwork. I got another payment today and am going to re-deposit tomorrow. Two of my deposits have already finished their full cycle of 18% for 7 days, and another one is still running. I think the plan is really good and stable and Fund4Future can possibly run for a very long time with it. One question is: SolidTrustPay is not added yet as the third payment processor (together with e-gold and LibertyReserve). I hope Joe will consider this option and add STP soon. If you’re curious to know more about Fund4Future please refer to my interview with Joe here.

Finansert recently stopped accepting both deposits and payments to e-gold explaining the reason in the news section of the site: “Because of recent strict regulations applied by e-gold digital currency and difficulties to swiftly transfer e-gold deposits to our trading accounts, we have decided to cede the use of e-gold as payment method for deposits and withdrawals. All users currently using e-gold are welcome to move all their deposits and withdrawable balance to E-Bullion without any additional fee by using automated conversion system in the members area. Please note, that once you switch to E-Bullion all pending withdrawals for e-gold digital currency are canceled and moved to E-Bullion withdrawable balance. Users who have never used E-Bullion digital currency before should feel free to contact us by e-mail (info@finansert.com) for instructions on creating an account, depositing and withdrawing funds. Users who are willing to use Liberty Reserve instead of E-Bullion should contact us by the same e-mail for further details. We are sorry for the inconveniences caused by outside parties that we did not have any control of“. It’s always good to hear that a program drops e-gold in order to save the funds from sudden freezing. I myself don’t use e-gold anymore and only keep small amount there. The successful heir to e-gold now is LibertyReserve which is similar to e-gold but easier to use and to exchange. LR also doesn’t depend on gold rates and has only dollar and euro accounts. As for Finansert itself it’s still paying me regularly and those interested can read my interview with the admin Andrew here.

MoneyTrip paid me some referral commissions this week. And though I haven’t been paid from my upgrades yet (still a week till expiry) in my opinion the admin David is doing a tremendous job on the forums explaining every possible question an investor could ask and solving every possible problem an investor could face. Not only does he do that but he also reports about his sports bets and what he’s going to bet on next. I wonder how he is always right about the result. I tend to believe that David really has sharp eye in betting. To read the interview with the admin of MoneyTrip click here, it’s really worth reading.

Jamie’s programs PSTraffic and PSAdvertising are also doing quite well. He always pays fast and on time and I’m still holding onto my strategies and reupgrading immediately after a payment. You can read about my PSTraffic strategy here. To find out more about my PSAdvertising strategy click here.

Another two programs showing good performances are QXLsurf and GreenLinkAds. I got paid from the both but didn’t reupgrade yet because I have other upgrades running in them. If you’re interested to know details about these programs please refer to my interviews with the admin of GreenLinkAds Bayu here and the admin of QXLsurf Jeff here.

One program that disappointed me quite a lot recently is AttractiveAds. I would not recommend you upgrading in this program until admin Larry comes out with some explanation why some members are still waiting for their pending payments since February 8th. Even if Larry has some problems with the funds he could explain it in his weekly update that is strangely delayed this week as well. If you remember I predicted such an outcome several days ago when AttractiveAds was under strong DDOS-attack that possibly decreased its cashflow significantly. But that time Larry seemed to have managed to cope with the situation. Since there are some disturbing signs showed by AttractiveAds now I decided to put this program to my “Waiting” status temporarily. I really hope that Larry will show up and explain everything soon because the silence is going to kill this program pretty soon.

But possibly the biggest disappointments in my opinion are SurfMargin and MultiStreamOnline. It seems Charles completely disappeared from all the forums, but the worst thing is he broke his word about starting payments and is still accepting upgrades. I think it’s extremely unfair to the unsuspecting members that might join and upgrade in these dormant programs. If Charles doesn’t appear during the next week I will consider him a scammer and will show “Not Paying” status instead of “Waiting”. Really enough is enough!

The same applies to the scammer Adiz who recently opened his site BlessingGlobeFund again but not to make refunds as he promised but to accept deposits from some members who don’t know about his history and background. He strangely still appears on forums and it doesn’t look bothered at all. I wonder why those who lost in his scamming program BlessingGlobeFund are still remaining calm and patiently waiting while he seems to try to scam more people with his site. Wake up and smell the coffee, guys. Take some action! Did you forget about your intention to write to Dave to freeze Adiz’s funds? Or will you allow this scammer to steal again? The choice is up to you, but for me the dead site that is still accepting deposits definitely derives from a scammer. It’s sad to say, Adiz but you ARE a liar and a scammer! At least have courage to admit it. That’s all I want to say to you.

To my dear readers: thanks for staying with my blog and reading it. I will do my best to make it even more useful for you so you could make your own investment decisions based on knowledge and fact and not some unproven rumors. Today I found another interesting program and I hope I will publish a review and an interview about this program by tomorrow. Stay tuned and thanks for being with me!

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