22/01/2016. MNOFridays (24th issue) and Daily News from the HYIP Industry
Hello everyone! Well the weekend is nearly on us again so I hope you’re all looking forward to some time off. I still have a couple of news stories to catch up with for you first though, so I hope you’ll make some time to read and keep yourself up-to-date on the biggest most popular programs in the HYIP industry as listed on MNO. Before I move on to that I’d like to say a few words about the current state of the industry as it stands so far this year.
The results of the last opinion poll on the MNO TalkBack Page showed some interesting though not altogether unexpected results. I’ll get to a more detailed analysis of this a bit later in the news section, but it’s already pretty obvious that the majority of readers are either keeping very small/limited portfolios, and a good deal of others aren’t currently bothering to invest anywhere at all right now. When you take this into consideration with another recent poll when readers expressed the view that they didn’t really expect a fast “post Christmas recovery” in the industry in comparison to every other year, then I think it’s time that everyone stops for a moment and asks why. Well, when I say it’s time for everyone to think about it what I really mean is that it’s time for admins to do it. Because most investors already know what the problem is and why they aren’t flocking to join the new programs that have started up so far this year – with literally only one or two notable exceptions the majority of them have been frankly appalling. And it’s not just me who thinks this by the way. The evidence is so blatantly obvious that even a child can see the number of cheap fast scams out there being peddled by monitors as “the next industry giant” or whatever that are closing without anyone ever seeing a profit. Couple that with the fact that experienced players are saying they are deliberately keeping their portfolios limited to basically the only programs worth joining, ie not many, and we can see that things simply have to change sooner or later.
OK, so let’s be blunt about this – there’s no point in going to a doctor’s office to see him shrug his shoulders and tell you you’re sick. If you’re already in his office then you didn’t need him to tell you that now did you? You want to talk about how you ended up in this situation and what can be done to put things right. So that’s really what I’m looking to do here. When the industry slows down, just like any “real world business” will from time to time, the people most affected by it are the ones who need to discuss it. What are the main points that admins in particular need to address then in order to improve standards and actually inspire investors to get back in the game? Four main points come immediately to mind:
One, admins are no longer making the effort they did last year to add proper verified and approved payment buttons from verifiable payment processors such as SolidTrustPay and Payza. The people who spend big money, ie the type of investor you are really looking to entice, aren’t prepared to throw their hard earned cash away without at least some sort of support or safety net. Too many people learned that lesson from what happened with LibertyReserve the hard way (in other words it hit them hard in the pocket) and they have no intention of going down that road again. It’s a buyer’s market out there now, and if you don’t give the big spenders the choice they want then they have no compunction in putting their money back in their wallets and sitting on it until something better comes along, how ever long that may be. Big spending players expect and demand a proper outlet for making investments. If they don’t get it then the admin will have to make do with the crumbs and peanuts left behind.
Two, a lack of interest from investors. While this might be an entirely real and genuine problem in the minds of a lot of admins, it’s also very much a “catch-22 situation” largely of your own making. The investors are still there, they’re still interested in HYIPs, they’re just not interested in joining any garbage that’s put in front of them, no matter how hard the paid posters go pimping it. On the part of HYIP admins it’s a waste of time waiting for someone else to go first all the time. Create something that’s actually worth joining is the only trick needed to get investors, serious investors I mean, treating you with respect.
Three, falling standards among other programs in the wider HYIP industry. Just don’t think that lower standards will lead to lower expectations. They won’t. They will only result a equivalent drop in the spending levels of those you convince to join your programs. Again, if the admin is happy with peanuts then good for him, that’s all he’s going to get. With each passing year in the HYIP industry there are always a select group of programs that truly stand out from the rest. At the moment for example PokerAutomatics would be the main one, and as more and more investors experience the best then the less likely they become to settle for lazy half baked efforts that are nowhere near as good as what they demand. Things are changing in the industry, and minimum expectations are getting higher. Either move in line with them or forget about ever achieving any kind of legendary status among investors.
Four, reduced advertising and operational budgets. I agree this can be a tricky one for less experienced admins – if you simply don’t have the money to get your program out there to your target audience then what can you do? It’s not as if the money to spend on tech support, custom scripts, popular monitors, professional design, etc is just going to fall out of the sky. Repeat professional admins might have less of an issue here, assuming they have to foresight to budget for their future programs from the success of any current ones. In other words putting a little bit of their own profits to one side today in order to finance future projects properly tomorrow. But one way or another admins have to have a good start-up budget and a healthy working capital if they are going to succeed, no two ways about it.
This is by no means a complete or comprehensive list of what admins need to address, nor is it meant to outline any solutions for a sometimes ailing HYIP industry. What I do hope it achieves though is to spark some debate and put some ideas into admins’ heads. A lazy, “coasting it” attitude isn’t going to cut it anymore. If you want to carry on with cheap scams that steal $10 and $20 deposits off a handful of people barely able to afford it then carry on, there’s not a great deal I can do to stop you, much as I’d like to. On the other hand if you see yourself as an ambitious go-getter then think carefully about the points I’ve made above. You are the admins I would like to see on MNO and those are the programs I would work to promote on my own monitor. Not that it would be a difficult job or anything, the likes of PokerAutomatics et al tend to sell themselves and make their own success. As long as you are prepared to work at it, come up with a cohesive strategy and business plan, and run a good game that gives investors a fair, equal, and realistic chance of making a profit. If you can do all of that then you are most welcome on MNO, where industry leaders are always treated with respect and the most ambitious programs are wanted.
DAILY NEWS FROM THE HYIP INDUSTRY
POKERAUTOMATICS – DAILY RESULTS, LOTTERY WINNER, NEW REPRESENTATIVES, POKERBOT NETWORK UPGRADE
I’m not sure how true it is but apparently PokerAutomatics have some huge reserves in their BitCoin accounts which should be more than enough to serve the ever-growing number of customers which has been expanding tenfold since the program was first introduced to online investment community back in August 2014. Now in its eighteenth remarkable month online PokerAutomatics has become a stunning example of what an admin with persistence and strong, unrelenting ambition can achieve when making the program such a tremendously successful venture. PokerAutomatics is probably the best representation of what was discussed in today’s article in the MNOFriday‘s series and I’m very proud that the admin chose my monitor to be the voice that delivers his message to others. Less able admins with ambitions to achieve anything like the enormous success should take note of the carefully planned strategy at play here. It’s exactly programs like PokerAutomatics that are the locomotives that drive the HYIP industry further and not allowing the competition to outshine them.
Anyway, PokerAutomatics (first reviewed here) continues to impress into 2016 year as expected with stable payouts to investors looking for moderate but healthy profits on their $30+ investments which can be done via SolidTrustPay, PerfectMoney, Payeer, BitCoin, AdvCash, and some many other lesser known currencies. When investing with PokerAutomatics you commit your money to work for you for a term of 30 to 180 calendar days (pre-determined by the size of your deposit) and get your initial investment back at the end. Then you get paid from 0.4% to 0.8% daily variable returns for the duration of your investment cycle which represents a 40% to 80% share of the company’s income posted regularly on the website and usually marked at 1% on average. Here are the latest company’s profit results for the last few days for your information:
Members are automatically enrolled in a weekly lottery with a VIP status upgrade as a prize. One lucky winner is announced every Sunday and awarded this prize. You can read more on what this status gives you on the specially dedicated lottery page linked to below along with the name of the latest winner:
“Lottery Results 17.01.2016:
The winner of this week is JanineM.
You get VIP status as a prize.
The background story of PokerAutomatics is that they have a source of income from an extensive network of pokerbots participating in online poker tournaments. This network is upgraded regularly to accommodate an ever increasing number of members. That story proved to be so successful that there were even several copycats appearing online trying to emulate PokerAutomatics, but apparently failing to compete on any serious level. Maybe the truly ambitious admins will prove more able to cope, but for now there certainly seems to be nothing seen on the horizon. Anyway, the most recent report on the pokerbot network upgrades which seem in line with maintaining the appearance of constantly working profitable venture and so attract more and more bigger investors. Here is the latest report on the pokerbot network upgrade from PokerAutomatics:
“Pokerbot network upgrade
A number of poker bots in the network increased to 1,242.
Our future goals:
January 2016: 1200-1300 active poker bot accounts
July 2016: 1500-1600 active poker bot accounts
January 2017: 1900-2000 active poker bot accounts
July 2017 and further: 2000 active poker bot accounts
The ultimate goal – 2000 active poker bot accounts.
For security reasons we won’t increase our botnet above 2000 active poker bot accounts.”
And finally, the outrageous success of PokerAutomatics would not be possible without the help of its network of more than 460 regional representatives that use word of mouth and help the program grow at constantly increasing levels. The latest representatives are from Germany and you can find his contact details (and the contact details of many many others) by following the link below:
“We have a new Representative
Robert Thalhofer – Germany
You may contact him by email, skype and phone
FENIXGROUP – NEW WEEKEND BONUS ANNOUNCED, BLOCKCHAIN ISSUES EXPLAINED, ABILITY TO COMPOUND ADDED
FenixGroup (reviewed here) which can now rightfully be named the second best program on the MNO monitor at the moment today starts a third attempt to entice new investors with another 10% deposit bonus that will be added automatically to everyone making a new investment in the program from 5 pm today to 11:59 am on Sunday. All you need to do is to invest anything starting from $10 in either of the two investment plans – 8.5% to 9.5% for 20 business days (principal included) or 4% to 5% for 20 business days (principal returned on expiry). Your 10% deposit bonus should then be added instantly like with SolidTrustPay, Payza, PerfectMoney, Payeer, AdvCash, NixMoney, OkPay, or manually by the admin, as with deposits via Skrill or Neteller. The admin acknowledges the bonus program attracts bigger spenders on the usually slower times in the business which traditionally hits over the weekends, so he’s considering on making the 10% bonus permanent available each weekend. In any case, such a tradition might become useful and the regularly scheduled deposit bonuses wouldn’t scare any experienced investors. So I believe the admin is on the right track and will I suppose announce whether this weekend bonus is going to become traditional or not.
Meanwhile, there are two other important points touched on in today’s newsletter from FenixGroup. First one will see the program making changes from BitCoin deposits having been processed and added automatically by the script to the temporary manual processing of such deposits. The reason for that is simple and it is the troublesome BlockChain with all the bugs which again gives both investors and HYIP admins a hard time sometimes waiting for transaction confirmation for hours, if not days and thus disrupting the proper investment cycle when daily accruals are credited to member’s accounts while deposits transactions made via BlockChain are still unconfirmed. The admin said that the BitCoin deposit issues had been pertaining for quite some time now, but BlockChain administration kept assuring them that API issues would be solved soon. Such issues are getting more and more frequent nowadays and FenixGroup is certainly not the first and not the only program affected, but at least the admin is capable to make some necessary adjustments to satisfy everyone. So, please bear with FenixGroup if you’re going to make your deposit via BitCoin and give them some time to manually credit your account.
And finally, one further update was about the newly introduced compounding option where members can increase their overall profits in FenixGroup by simply choosing a reinvestment percentage from 0% to 100%. Obviously this is another smart move by the admin aiming at keeping money in the program for as much time as possible, while at the same time providing a compounding option to that small group of investors ready to risk losing their daily profits in return for possible higher future returns. We know exactly that there will always be such investors and perhaps satisfying their demands is not such a bad idea. Anyway, those of you who want to change the compounding option even for already existing deposits in FenixGroup will be able to do so now by clicking on Deposits tab in your account and find Change Compounding option opposite to accruals graph. Simple as that. Anyway, I guess that is all the news from FenixGroup for today explained and you will be able to read the full fledged newsletter from the admin below:
“BitCoin deposits, Compounding and BONUS program
Hello, dear investors!
1. During this week you were asking us whether another bonus program will be launched, and if so when? Of course it will – and it will start in 1 hour! We don’t even need a reason to give you a 10% bonus. The program attracts a lot of new investors + our old ones make new deposits. As a result, everybody stays in the win! We are already beginning to think about how to make this program permanent on every weekend (at the moment we are discussing this issue).
In this way 10% bonus will be automatically added to all deposits in the period from 17:00 (GMT) 22th January (Friday) to 23.59 (GMT) 24th January (Sunday). For example: if you deposit $100, you account balance will be credited for $110.
2. A few words about the ongoing problems with Blockchain.info. Some of deposits still are not processed by Blockchain API even after more than 72 hours. We have added these deposits manually, already paid all affiliate rewards from them as well as made several accruals of profit, but these deposits are not in our Blockchain wallet yet. In this regard, we switched accepting of bitcoins in manual mode, now all your BTC deposits are handled by our operators (usually within 1 hour, in rare cases up to 6 hours). Henceforth there will be no any delays due Blockchain (certainly we should have done a long time ago, but Blockchain support fed us with promises that that soon API will work fine).
3. Since many our investors don’t withdraw their profits and prefer to reinvest back into the project we’ve added compounding* option. You can select compounding in the “Deposits” section of your personal account, to do this just click on “Change Compounding”. Early next week, we will upgrade a calculator on the Home page and you can easily calculate your profit with compounding.
Have a good weekend!
*Compounding refers to generating earnings from previous earnings. The ability of current investment value to generate earnings, which are then reinvested in order to generate their own earnings. So, the compounding is using profit which we earned to reinvest in order to gain the bigger profit.”
PAYZA – WITHDRAWAL DELAYS EXPLAINED
Meanwhile, clients of Payza recently faced some delays in having their withdrawals approved and completed. Some were even so displeased they went so far as to post and complain on public forums which forced Payza to issue an official and profusely apologetic response on the Payza official Facebook page which I’ll re-post below for your information. So, your patience is appreciated while Payza is performs all the necessary checks to securely process all the pending withdrawals. By the way, after reading this Facebook post I was wondering whether a shortage of competent staff members was one of the main reasons why some HYIP admins still cannot add Payza to their list of payment processors. Anyway, that’s just speculation and the facts, I suppose, are given in the following update directly from Payza:
“Hello Payza People, we wanted to take a moment to discuss the recent delays many of our members have faced recently with their transactions.
2015 was an exciting year for Payza which saw us release many new features and products, such as Payza Connect and the Payza Prepaid Card. As our range of products and features expanded, so did our member base. By the end of December, new account sign ups were averaging roughly 10,000 per day! That was a dramatic increase, more than double the amount we were used to seeing.
With more sign ups came more transactions, and with more transactions came the need for our team to perform more transaction reviews, an important process that helps protect our members from fraud and other illegal activity.
Despite our best efforts to keep up with the sudden increase in demand, we were unable to complete many transactions in the time frame indicated, and for that we apologize.
To deal with this increase, we have expanded our team through new hires and we are in the process of developing a more robust automated review system that will help reduce wait times in the near future and farther down the road as well.
We are excited for 2016 and expect this year to be the best yet at Payza. We want to take this time to thank you for your patience if you are experiencing delays and to assure you that all pending transactions will be reviewed and completed in the order they were created. If ever you need further assistance, our Support Team can be reached by Live Chat and Support Ticket, and you can also get in touch with us by sending a private message on this Facebook Page.
We will continue to keep you updated about this situation as new developments arise.
Thank you sincerely,
The Payza Team.”
MNO TALKBACK – POLL RESULTS AND NEW POLL ADDED
I was very interested to see that the MNO readers are very picky and the vast majority (56%) only invest in one to five programs, keeping their portfolios to the bare minimum. The second most popular answer was (perhaps more surprisingly) from investors with no programs at all at the moment, with 15% taking that option. I guess that just proves my theory that the lack of good quality programs at the moment means investors just stick with the very best, with most preferring to wait for a really good one to appear in the near future instead of investing in so very many low-grade scams around now. That’s a very wise approach shared by over two thirds of MNO readers, with another third of the votes spread between 6 to 10 programs (9%), 11 to 20 programs (11%), and 21 and more (9%). Well, the figures speak for themselves and I hope that HYIP admins will think hard now about the unsatisfied demand for quality programs using a wider range of payment processors that appeal to larger audiences.
For the new question which is open for voting on the MNO TalkBack page for the next week to ten days or so I was wondering about readers’ hopes and expectations for this year. I was very optimistic in mid-November last year when we had so many programs accepting SolidTrustPay and/or Payza which opened doors for larger investors from Europe and North America, but unfortunately the admins seem to lag behind in delivering such programs since then. Apart from few really good ones they remain a minority. So, the question arises – what, in your opinion, is preventing HYIP admins from delivering a better standard of program?
Of course, as most readers have nothing to do with HYIP admins I can only ask you to speculate on the subject and pick the most probable reason in your opinion. So, possible answers include:
1) Lower standards will not satisfy experienced investors.
2) Inability to verify STP and Payza accounts and get them approved.
3) Bad timing due to lack of interest by investors.
4) Not enough financing and smaller operating budgets.
5) All of the above.
Please think carefully about the possible reasons for that and answer the question on the MNO TalkBack page. Submit your vote as it will only take a second and thanks in advance for your active participation in the poll the final results of which will be drawn at the end of next business week.
Here is the list of the programs from my monitor that paid me for the last 60 hours:
From MNO Sticky list: –
From MNO Premium list: PokerAutomatics, FenixGroup, ArdexFunds, 12DailyCoin.
From MNO Standard list: OrientOrganization.
From MNO Basic list: GloboxTrade, ForexKing.
That is all I have to report on today, guys. I hope that you’re enjoying your weekend and come back to MNO on Monday when the next post with the latest updates from the HYIP industry is due to be published. I might be back a bit earlier earlier if I deem it necessary or if any new project is added to the MNO monitor first. Not to miss the next industry leaders please subscribe by submitting your email address in the field you find on the top right-hand corner of my blog and follow MNO on Facebook and Twitter where all the links to the most interesting articles, reviews and interviews are always posted. Stay safe this weekend and have some profitable investments with MNO!