16/08/09. 12DailyInv Review and Other News
THE PROGRAM HAS STOPPED PAYING! PLEASE DON’T INVEST!
Hi everyone! A minor but interesting recurring phenomena in the online investments industry over the last couple of months has been the dual administration of both surfing based and HYIP sites by the same admin. There have been varying degrees of success between them, with some providing a good service and a good choice of plan to those investors you enjoy surfing programs, and also to those not too keen on surfing but preferring a pure HYIP type program. Some others of course have been less than successful, but the less said about that the better!
The latest such program to branch out like this, and one I have little doubt will be a success, is the new project just launched by Mike and Jeffrey from the popular surfing site 12DailyClicks (reviewed here). Just to give a quick word on the background to all of this 12DailyClicks had been contemplating adding a new non-surf program to their repertoire as this has proved to be so successful in attracting new members with a number of other surfing programs. As they began working on this however (and I’m just assuming) the new plan appears to have taken on a life of its own and has now morphed into an entirely new site. The site is called 12DailyInv and it’s the latest short term HYIP to cause a stir amongst the online investment community.
Although the chosen name for the new program might give more than a passing nod to a couple of recent short term programs running at the moment, the plans would seem to suggest InvestiMates (reviewed here) is the real business model 12DailyInv is chasing. And why not? That one’s been an unqualified success story since the day they started trading so if you want to follow in somebody else’s footsteps, make sure it’s somebody good! And if 12DailyInv can emulate the success of InvestiMates then we are all in with a great chance of some decent profits. Of course the similarities between the two programs don’t just begin and end with some similarities in the plans. The history is also the same with the admins both coming from a surfing background and lately moving into HYIPs. Without wanting to go on too much about InvestiMates here, (this is a 12DailyInv review after all), my point is that if anyone is in prime position to exploit the current thirst for high ROI short term plans then it’s Mike and Jeffrey.
So anyway, what about the plans? Well, 12DailyInv have two available plans and as we might expect there is a distinct surf-like feel to them. They are both very straight forward and really quite easy to understand. The first one pays daily and is open to deposits of between $50 and $5000. This plan will run for 10 days and during this time you will earn 12% interest per day, paid 7 days per week, on your deposit. And if we take a practical example of a nice easy $100 to invest, that will work out as a daily payment of $12 for you, getting you to break even and see your first profit on day number nine, and finishing the plan with a total of $120. That’s 100% principal (already factored into your payments) and 20% profit.
The second plan in 12DailyInv is more profitable. So consequently it’s more of a risk. And it’s more expensive to join. It will set you back a minimum of $100 to join but the maximum remains unchanged at $5000. Payments this time are made on expiry and the investment term also runs for 10 days. You should expect a once off payment here (which includes your principal) of 140%. So obviously for a $100 you will get $140 back for yourself after 10 days. 100% principal plus 40% profit.
And that’s it! No great mystery to it at all. Simple and uncomplicated as all the best short term HYIPs should be. The only other things I need to point out about the plans is that first of all the minimum withdrawal is $5 and second is the time it takes to get paid. Typically at this early stage payments are processed within a matter of hours but you are requested to allow them up to 2 business days. It’s also probably worth pointing out the significant gulf between the minimum amounts you may invest in 12DailyClicks and 12DailyInv. I know that $50 to $100 is a stretch for a lot of readers here in different parts of the world and I can only suspect the reason for that to be the admins would like to keep the smaller investors interested in their surfing program.
The list of payment processors is as good as any you will see in the HYIP world and includes AlertPay, SolidTrustPay, StrictPay, LibertyReserve and PerfectMoney. The very same list as accepted by their sister site 12DailyClicks in fact.
That’s one feature that both sites have in common but by no means do they share everything. 12DailyInv is for instance not hosted on a dedicated server but it is on the best and most powerful server available (from Staminus). They only share the server with one other site. I’d rather it was none, but it will probably be fine. In fact the other site hosted there is no longer active so really it’s probably not worth mentioning. To the best of my knowledge they are hosted by Koddos although I’m not 100% on that. But I’ll find out. The script is also different with the admins opting for GoldCoders this time. Although the design is still very professional and easy on the eye.
One excellent feature 12DailyInv does share with its surfing counterpart though is an outstanding level of customer service and communication. First of all while the FAQ page might look a little thin at first glance, this is more than compensated for by the step by step guide that practically walks you through every possible aspect of getting involved with 12DailyInv from the moment you decide to join to the moment you get paid. And it’s all done in the most plain and simple, yet still comprehensive terms. It’s unlikely you will have any general inquiries after that but for support issues there are the usual online e-mail ticketing system and a Live Chat function for instant replies when the admin is online. And they’re already pretty active on the MMG forum with their other project so I guess it’s fair to assume this will continue with 12DailyInv as well.
Overall I have to say that in its own right 12DailyInv is an excellent prospect with a lot of the groundwork already being done prior to launch. The reputation of the co-admins has already been established by way of their ongoing surfing side project and so many of you will already be familiar with them and how they operate. And few if any will complain about that I am sure. However if I had to make one criticism of 12DailyInv (and in the interests of fairness I really do need to make at least one) it would be this. In the case of InvestiMates the admin closed his surfing site before moving to HYIPs. Not so here. The two sites running simultaneously does not really sit well with me. No matter how good one of these sites is, its fortunes are always going to be intrinsically linked with the other. For better or worse if one of them collapses then the other one is sure to follow nigh on immediately. I really do feel the admins should have tried to separate one from the other. But on the other hand it’s kinda difficult to say how. Either way, if you decide to join 12DailyInv I would suggest you also keep an eye on the paying status of 12DailyClicks as well, regardless of if you are a member there or not.
But I’ll wish Mike and Jeffrey every success with the new program and hopefully I can get them to address these and other matters in our upcoming interview.
Just one final thing I think deserves a brief mention here is that the 12DailyInv admins are not making any pretense about stock market trading or million dollar ForEx deals. You know, the usual rubbish that fills page after page on so many HYIP websites. And for that I commend them. This is being presented to you as exactly what it is. A game. And a game that if played smartly can bring you a nice profit for yourself.
Other news for today.
Let’s start with another update from Olivia, the admin of the current leader among short-term programs BestInv (reviewed here). The program is still doing extremely well and now has over 8,000 members. This is really a fantastic achievement for 38 days online. Many other programs would have closed their doors and ran off a long time ago but BestInv is still paying on time even such high rates as 120% after 5 days, 145% after 10 days and 175% after 15 days. Well, it’s simply phenomenal in my honest opinion! Moreover, the admin of BestInv Olivia (read my interview with her here) continues her efforts to make this program more and more attractive to online investors. Starting from tomorrow BestInv will be launching phone support lines in both the English and French languages. To my memory this is the first time I’m aware of this happening in a short-term HYIP program. I can’t say for sure if it will work but I will try to test it tomorrow and let you know what I find out. Anyway, it seems some members of BestInv casted some bad votes today and the admin had the right to react to this accordingly. There were some issues I reported on already but they all were connected with ref commissions issues. Some members registered new accounts under themselves in the hope of making more money from BestInv. Please note that it’s strictly forbidden in any online program to do this and you run the risk of being suspended permanently and forfeiting all your profits. Trust me on this, it’s not very difficult at all to identify and eliminate all cheaters from the system so play by the rules and you will be rewarded! Here is the most recent update from BestInv with exciting news about adding the phone support:
“Dear Members, Since my last mail, over 350 new members have stepped into our program. I am so happy and excited with the momentum at which we are soaring ahead.
I am very passionate about BestInv and I get very sentimental and emotional when people out there try to degrade my program by spreading wrong messages.
Time and again, in my mails I have emphasized on my goal and that’s where I require each and every members support. I alone cannot bring a change, I need your help to create a movement, where in you can be financially strong and comfortable.
There are several people out there who would simply log on to monitors and talk about our program being scam and horrible and God knows what. Why the heck don’t these people simply leave a support ticket for me to answer them back. This is outrageous, they are not clear about things and they act so restless even before trying to get their queries clarified.
I hate people who jump the gun and do things out of momentary impulse. Come on, that’s not how things work.
I am working day and night to hold my programs reputation high by giving the best of service possible by me, and there these bunch of idiots just don’t get it for some reason.
Some investors come with 5 bucks and will waste 5 hours of mine to clarify queries that are so damn silly. I can get frustrated, but still I gather all my patience to clarify their misunderstandings.
If after all that, a person feels that my program is not worthwhile for them, then why think of investing?? why don’t u move on to another program where you may feel more comfortable.
I cannot let my programs integrity and principles get compromised due to a bunch of silly people out there with their so called negatively erratic mindset.
If a common man works 8 hours a day (9 to 5) , I am putting in almost 20 hours of mine into this program… for what??? Do u think I got insomnia??? come on understand, it’s for you members only.
People who are mature and sensible have invested over 20k in one shot. Do you think they are crazy??? It’s because they have faith in us, and we are proud to have established us to such an extent, where people see us seriously and are growing their funds exponentially.
My respected members, I understand your concern greatly and I am doing every bit to make BestInv a dreamwork for you.
I bring to you a very important update regarding our program and it’s as follows:
– We are starting phone support from tomorrow both in English and French.
– The phone number for French support is 06 21 73 29 64 (from France)
– The phone number outside of France is +33 621 732 964 (Rest of the World)
– The timing for phone Support is 7.00 AM GMT to 4.00 PM GMT
– E-mail for French support is aideinvest@gmail.com
– The name of phone support officer is Jean-Pierre
The basic idea of providing phone support is to answer all sorts of questions and queries of members and help them invest wisely and easily.
Warm Regards, Olivia.”
The admin of GloriousProfit Chris (I have reviewed his program here) updated the members of his program today on the current state of things. And it seems everything is working fine: the withdrawals are being processed in time and GloriousProfit has already some members who deposited over 1,000 dollars into the flexible 5%-5.5% for 30 days plan(the daily rates depends on the amount deposited). It’s a pretty good sign of investor confidence when a program just 4 days online has such large investors and it indicates that the level of growth is quite stable. This is the latest update from GloriousProfit:
“Hope you are out and enjoying your weekend, just here to give you some quick news about the progress GloriousProfit has made!
GloriousProfit has now been online about 4 days and has achieved more than I ever expected. Currently we stand at having 304 members and just over half have upgraded and a few of them into our 5.25% daily plan. This is surely a sign of trust and I am very proud to have you all as a member in GloriousProfit! Thanks for giving us your support and making the first few days such a wonderful start.
I have spent many months planning out GloriousProfit and it has been very worth it. I’ve been in and out of the threads every day and will continue to be there daily. If you have any questions don’t hesitate to ask anything. Our Live support is available everyday and is usually online about 12-16 hours daily. If you need a fast answer or just want to talk with me, click the online image in the index (home) of the site. Hope to talk with you!
Next, GloriousProfit has been reviewed by Paul from Money-News-Online. Thank you Paul for taking time to review GloriousProfit and Welcome all of MNO readers!! If you haven’t checked out the review be sure to check it out here.
Again would like to Welcome all new members and if you need any assistance don’t hesitate to contact me at anytime.
Sincerely, Chris Ogeri”.
Some members were a little panicked today when TenTraders program (that is yet to be reviewed on my blog) suddenly went offline for a few hours. The admin however updated the members as to the reason for the downtime straight after the site came back online:
“Hello TenTraders Members, Our server manager Ddoslock team is upgrading server. We apologize for this subject that site was down.
Please check site now. it is ok. So please don’t hesitate to contact with us if you have any problem in about access to site.
Thank you. Alex Aliera.”
I must say that I have received some referral commissions yesterday but was unable to load the TenTraders site until just earlier when I requested my first withdrawal from the 107% after 1 day plan. The money has yet to reach my AlertPay account but I will let you know when this happens.
Some bad news now and it seems the admin of FoxFund stopped paying yesterday. And there was no reply to my email when I tried to help one of my readers to get his withdrawal. It’s a very bad sign and we should expect nothing positive from FoxFund. After being just 20 days online it seems they are gone already. Well, this is definitely not what investors expected but we should remember that this is how things are done in this industry and that’s why it’s so important to diversify your investment portfolio among several programs.
Among such good programs we can include NanoMoneyCorp for example. Although being a silent player and accepting only LibertyReserve and PerfectMoney it has achieved a tremendous three years online with nothing but excellent support and fast payouts. It’s now firmly fixed in my Top 5 programs and being a low-ROI program NanoMoneyCorp is definitely more stable than its short-term high-ROI counterparts. Maybe it would be wise to deposit something into a well-established program like NanoMoneyCorp that is offering 1.2% for 30 days, 1.5% for 50 days and 1.8% for 100 days with your principal back at the end of the term. The rates are varied depending on the plan and the deposited amount. Please refer to my detailed review of NanoMoneyCorp for more information on investment plans and other features (it’s published here). I have been paid from this program since January, 2009 and am highly recommending it. After my 30 days plan matures I never withdraw my deposit but rather reinvest it because I believe NanoMoneyCorp can run for a very long time. So yesterday my plan has finished and I reinvested again, for the fifth time already. I have really nothing to say other than “Great job done, NanoMoneyCorp”.
StableInterest (reviewed here) is also from the school of long-lasting programs. I know for sure that it has been online for about a year at least although on their site they say it’s quite a bit longer. So far the payouts and the level of support were second to none and the program has gained a reputation of a very stable performer in HYIP arena. Their cover story is trading funds with the help of a team of professional traders and market analysts. You’re free to believe this or not as they are just words and nothing more but if you believe it you might be interested to know that the team of StableInterest is about to invade the Chinese market. Well, really, why not, lol? Here is the update:
“China is taking leading positions in renewable energy technologies.
By now China is producing one-third of the world’s solar cells, and is shifting its massive production capabilities to capture the lion’s share of the wind power industry as well.
The good news for StableInterest is that continued growth of the Chinese economy and policy support from the central government to spur domestic investment resulted in a positive economic forecast for foreign investors looking at the attractiveness of the domestic deal flow and the desirability of setting up an onshore investment platform to facilitate onshore deal-making. StableInterest goes to China. The analysts are sure, entering the new market will be successful.”
The admin of XagaEnterprise Kevin (interviewed here) uploaded more screenshots of his investment activities and you can see them on his website. To tell you the truth I’m not all that good at understanding what exactly Kevin is doing with investors’ money but the program is doing pretty well since the relaunch and the current investment plan offering 1.2% every business day forever seems to be pretty achievable for the time being. For more information on XagaEnterprise program please read my updated review of the relaunched program published here. And the following is the latest update from the admin:
“I have uploaded some new screenshots. These images are about ordering Sony Digicam process.
You can see them here .
Please notice that XagaEnterprise is also selling items and hotel rooms to third parties with cheaper prices compare to the market. We got these items and rooms from comps redemption.
Don’t forget to support us on forums. Please post your payment proofs.
Thank you and have a nice weekend.
Regards, Kevin”.
Please note that the withdrawals in another popular program ExcellentProfit that is offering 1.5% for 60 business days and 8% for 12 weeks with principal returned back on expiry are not processed on the weekends. For more details on ExcellentProfit please refer to my detailed review published here. And this is just a friendly reminder from the admin regarding the time frame for the processing of payouts:
“ExcellentProfit is now back up. Please refrain your FAQ that the frequency of payouts on weekends are less. All payouts are full-fledged carried out from Monday-Friday. Nathan, Support Department.”
As I mentioned here yesterday I am currently traveling through Denmark en route to Norway and Iceland on vacation. Well today I find myself in the idyllic city of Odense. So do you still believe in fairy-tales? A strange question you may think but Odense is also the birthplace of the famed writer of children’s stories Hans Christian Anderson. And given my current surroundings I almost thought that Hans was writing to me from beyond the grave with this piece of literary fiction I received to my mailbox from the admin of RoxiTrade. Here it is:
“First all of sorry for delay in payment and updates. We had a bad and busy week with some problem. On Friday, Aug 7th our office investigated by local law agency due to natural of our work. After 7 days hard work and providing required documents and license, we were able to pass this problem and back our office again and start our work. We were unable to notify you because all of our accounts and emails were out of our hand. Now we are here to continue our work. But due to this problem and closing for 1 week we have to cancel all profit for this week. Sorry for that but for our program stability we have to do it. All pending withdrawals canceled, all pending verification canceled, and all support emails rejected, so please make withdrawal with your new balance and verify your account and send us your message again, we will try to speed up the payment and our staff work today and tomorrow to make your payment faster. Also you don’t need to worry about your profit, at the end of investment plan you will receive profit for full period, you don’t loss any trading session.”
Ok, let’s analyze this update. As I have said already in my review of RoxiTrade published here their address is non-existent and there is no such building on Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee in Berlin, Germany. So whatever enforcement agency investigated their imaginary office in Germany are less real than the program itself. Although the thought of a group of German policemen storming an empty car park and looking up to the sky for RoxiTrade did put a guilty smile on my face! Sorry to be flippant but it’s true. Now with all the pending withdrawals canceled the investors are supposed to wait for some period of time before they can actually withdraw. In my honest opinion it’s a really spineless attempt from somebody (admins or otherwise) to con some easy profit from unsuspecting investors. Taking into consideration all the lies they gave us already I suggest you NOT make any deposits into RoxiTrade until ALL the payments are back to normal. Will this happen? I don’t know but until then RoxiTrade will stay in Not Paying status on my monitoring page. Sorry, admin, but I’m too long in this game to believe in fairy-tales with an unexpected happy ending. Especially from a storyteller that is far less of a genius that Hans Christian Andersen.
According to suggestions from a couple of readers I’ve decided to issue a notice to those who have accounts in PerfectMoney. Please note that Wire withdrawals cannot be processed currently. They was no clear reason stated by the PerfectMoney administration as to why, but it’s obvious that it will take much longer than expected. So please don’t use the wire withdrawal method but go for exchangers’ services instead. I don’t know if it should be taken as a warning sign but taking into consideration the current issues with exchangers I do know that it can’t have a good affect on the future of PerfectMoney as a whole. So just be aware of that, guys!
That was all I wanted to say for today except to finish today’s post I would like to just give the usual payment report from the programs that paid me over the last 48 hours. They are: PlusInv, BestInv, InvestiMates, OnisGroup, GeniusFunds, XagaEnterprise, Verifield, IncoForex, AssetsParty, 12DailyClicks, CashXpress, GoldNuggetInvest, FlipReturn, YesICanSurf, GloriousProfit, AxaCofinance, CoolReturn, DirectResult, TenTraders (first ref comms received) and 12DailyInv (the first payments received). As usual I hope to see you all on my blog tomorrow!
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